Gheddafi versus the Western Powers.
Gheddafi would have been a historically honourable character if, having achieved power in the sixties, he would have, like the Italian patriot Garibaldi did in the 1870s and Mussolini also in the 1930s, in relation to the Savoja Monarchy, invited the Senoussi Monarchy to accept him as a leader of Libya.
He is however hopelessly indoctrinated in Wahabism, like most unreformed, biasedly educated Islamists are, in an intellectual matrix that must be terribly deficient on correct World History. And even relatively mild Mohammedans who hold the Citizenship papers of say America, Australia, etc. even born in their new Country, are still fanatically
anti-American, anti-Israel,......................
I do share with Mohammedans in general, their concern for the moral degeneration and decay of modern western democracies as the result of unsupervised freedoms, that allow the rise to the top of criminal moneyed elements, the corruption of the masses ( through inane, empty media), the election of puppet--like, mealy-mouthed, mass-- worshipping politicians/leaders, the separation between Church and State, in the absence of a determined ethical/moral education from the early years of a citizen's education ( again in the name of false freedoms ), the self-perpetuation of a corrupt system, etc.
A BLOODY VICIOUS CIRCLE!
My Libyan experience ( I was a teenager then ) in pre-Gheddafi's times was that as soon as moneyed western oil-personnel and members of the U.S.A.'s Air Force began to enter Libya, corruption began to manifest itself with Night-Clubs, Prostitution, drugs-abuses, etc., the criminal elements in libyan society lifting their ugly personalities and making waves through the resulting bribings and corruption. The Libyan people are extremely religious and a reaction immediately set-in , something the either mentally--deficient or arrogant Americans appear to not understand to the extent of producing their biased films showing, extolling without explanations, apologetics or regrets their supremacy and their enslavemewnt of the Indians of America or the overwhelming use of their tecnological might against their opponents.
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Incidentally, this is still going on in relation to the continuing vilification of the Germans, even when we the West depend greatly on this valorous Nation which was provoked into WWII together with Japan and Italy by the greed and arrogance of America, Britain and France.
Germans Japanese and Italian industries could not compete with the discrepancy in the costs of raw materials their competitors obtained from their colonies.
The cold winters sapped the health of and decimated for decades the populations of Germany Italy and Japan driving these into desperation. And the Hebrews benefited from their International connections to grow fat while people around them wasted away.
LET US SPEAK SOME TRUTH
...............SHALL WE?
We have to recognize and pay attention to the meaning of the word PROVOCATION before passing judgment on others.
Until the advent of the American-oil-era ( the 1950s) Libya was governed by the Senoussi Monarchy with the help of the Britsh Army and Foreign Office and let me tell you it was an enlightened, peaceful, gracious Government.
Gheddafi's error has been in not seing what I saw then and understand to-day in my old age.........the difference between te British Westminster System and the corrupt American democratic one.
There must exist in fact a right balance between a democratic government biased against crime and corruption, and I say 'biased ' as one cannot accept on principle the equality between non-organized individual crimes and the collusive, collective, planned, subversive, highly powered crimes, under the Law, and a morally-concerned, however vengefull, blood-thirsty, primitive, un-reformed Islam.
In other words FREEDOM/HUMAN RIGHTS must be balanced by DUTIES and subjected to JUSTICE.
Please do not give me your crap about WHO and HOW is somehow to decide about what is GOOD and BAD, and that the planned, organized, collusive, collective CRIME must be given the same chances as the individual, desperate, isolated CRIME of passion and despair.
Our judges are judging anyway, if inconsistently, futilely and inanely so.
Islamism may err on the side of the heaviness of penalties as it is still anchored to the Middle Ages, and I agree that penalties should be realigned to modern capacities for rehabilitation and sensitivities.
There should not be however any compromise in the discernment between organized, high-powered and non-collective types of CRIME and no tolerance for compromises supported by our sophistical Lawyer specializing in loopholes
................................and on how to defeat the Law. Too large a number of Lawyers is in fact motivated by greed not justice. Terrorism is included in the non-acceptable, intolerable, types of organized, collusive, collective, subversive, corrupting CRIMES.
And the penalties should be correspondingly heavier for the latter types than for the former ones. And extended to the families of the main performers.
Excommunication from society should be enforced for these criminals...........with no prisoners and no quarters.
Else.........Universal Justice and a Groaning Nature shall step in to eventually clean up- the slimy MESS.............my dear self-deluded buggers!
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This is perhaps the basis of all the discord and mistrust between Islam and the West and I do not blame Islam.
Moreover, since the West has really and practically ceased from being Christian, and is vilifying most Christian ethical tenets, in the name of a Freedom without Wisdom, I can see a possible support of Islam by Christians in the future.
This is a dilemma.
This is probably the reason why so many Christian Sects, like the Copts of Egypt and the Nestorians of Syria, cooperated with Islam in the days of the Byzantine Empire.
Very sad............but a natural reaction.
On the other hand, having uttered the above, as a Christian, I cannot accept Islam's total rejection of any effort at making true peace with Israel. It goes against the description of Allah as merciful, compassionate and just.
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Before any other comment, let me make the comparison between the present events and those that occurred at the time of the Egyptian leader Nasser.
Nasser, encouraged, financed and and armed by a still monolithic, subversive and communist U.S.S.R., in the midst of a still ongoing Cold War......, was bent on-:
(1 ) Nationalizing the Suez Canal which was privately owned,
(2) An escalation of the Islamic attack on Israel,
(3) Preparing the de-stabilization of neighbouring Libya, and other Islamic Monarchies ( without which Western Democracy cannot exist in modern Islamic Nations as a Monarchy can supply the neutral, non--partisan ground essential to anchor the political stability of a necessarily partisan Democracy against the fanatical religious ideologists and would-be-dictators with various motivations.........and this applies generally everywhere), at the time governed by the Senoussi Monarchy ( genuine descendants of Mohammed the Prophet ), favorable to a policy of peace and co-operation with the West and co-existence with Israel, by treasonably training and politically brain-washing, while religiously alienating through the medieval interpretations and exegesis of Islamic Theology and Religious Law ( i.e., the Islamic Canon ) dating from the times of Wahabi, the young Libyan officers and teachers.
Gheddafi was one of these young Libyan officers.
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In the present, setting aside the usurpation of power by Gheddafi in the 1960s, he has been so far accepted by the Libyan people, and the media show many in Libya still support him. Thousands of foreign workers, mostly from Islam have found employment in Libya and this is a plus for his Government.
I wish Islam were to take more care of its own instead of throwing them onto us for help.
I am finding it very strange that all of a sudden we have a rebellion in Libya and Egypt.
I am being told that the attacks on Gheddafi in Libya are to protect the Libyan people..........who says so?
In the times of Nasser the British and the French landed at Suez to stop the illegal nationalization of the Canal by Nasser.
The Americans interfered and asked for their withdrawal.
This prepared the eventual usurpation of power in Libya by Gheddafi.
Assuredly, the U.S.S.R.s were then protesting about British and French activities while to-day they have been brought to unhappily agree with the present attacks.
What I can see is a worsening of the world---scenarios as Islamists all over the world are going to have their fanatical views reinforced against Americans and Israelis.
The fact is that, to-day, putting aside all other considerations as the blunders of Gheddafi's youth, indoctrination ( condoned by the hairy--cholesterolic---brained Americans in the 1950s in the Nasser-Era) and patriotism, has been the de-facto Government since the 1960s and in comparison to a Mafioso like Berlusconi and some of our pathetic mealy-mouthed politicians the puppets of the corrupt democratic masses, Gheddafi has been good to Islamic Libya.
Note that since the end of WWII America has shown a total lack of judgment in its diplomatic and war activities...........Camp David has been going on for years........Korea, Vietnam ( and the non-cooperation with France prior to Vietnam) have been failures. Iraq is a shamble, Afghanistan is never ending.
Now we are having something opening up in Libya.
I am not anti-American at all........but I cannot be silent about their grotty, peasant-like blunders..........the terrible waste of lives and materials.............their gross incapacity to square things and historical facts up with Islamic representatives at the diplomatic level.
CONCLUSION-: The West has missed a wonderful opportunity to show Islam that it does not wish to interfere in Islamic issues. The protection of the Libyan people is a purely Islamic matter. Let Iran enter the Libyan scenario, if willing to do so, and asked by Gheddafi.
I would only enter the arena if Israel ( hipothetically), Gheddafi or Iran or any other Islamic nation were to invade a bordering nation, disturbing the status quo.