Post 332. Sophistry from politicians.
Sophistry from politicians.
I have decided to become more constructive and general in my comments and criticism since my aim is education and reformation not character- murdering.
I recently heard a gem of an illogical response to a relevant objection regarding the 'carbon tax ...........i.e., taxation on pollution resulting from coal used as a source of energy ' projected by the Australian Government ( March 2011 ).
The objection is that a 'carbon tax ' is going to increase the costs of goods and services.
The politician suavely and surely.......oh so assuredly........answered that there is still going to be a choice between goods not depending on coal and those, (meaning .........the very same goods ) which are dependent on coal as a source of energy for their production .
The sophistry is at a double level...........since a vast range of essential goods and services depend on Energy delivered at high concentrations and rates (i.e., explosively or by way of some intense/ high temperature--- combustion......... ) of delivery and some goods and services cannot possibly be sourced by Renewable sources, except the vegetable one, which however competes with the food-clothing--etc.-requirements of billions of human beings.
One of the fallacies in the politician's statement resulted, fundamentally, from the naive lack of discrimination between goods and services, between domestic and public, as it appears she had concentrated/focused in her sophistical answer on manufactured goods which can be bought in a store.
For example, following my differentiations, I consider a car as a good but its use as a service via the medium of the fuel---combustion/explosion.
One may be able to manufacture one car through the installation and exploitation of a vast number of square kilometers of solar panels, but one cannot move it by solar panels according to parameters only possible with fuels obtained from the carbon-hydrogen chemical atomic structures.
It is clear to me that there is no Engineer or Scientist in Parliament, probably because people trained in the severe and exact sciences find it hard to lie, and when they tell the truth are politically disliked and kicked out from the top-echelons of command..................
unless, as a few among even the ranks of Engineers and Scientists do, some probably motivated by failures or mediocrity in their chosen field, others by the available rewards, they somehow reach the classification of the so called 'EXPERT in this or that '.
Going back to the goods depending or not from coal.
Energy has at present two sources in Australia............: Renewable ( i.e., Wind, Tide, Vegetable, Thermal/Geological ) and Fossil.
The Nuclear which is the result of the Fusion and Fission of materials somehow structured by past cosmic events so as to lock within their atomic structures, sources of Energy, is being rejected by Australians on the ground of its toxic waste-products. Nuclear Energy could also be called Fossil except that it is purely of a mineral classification, i.e., of non-biological origins.
Tiny Japan has actively participated in the Research and Production of the Nuclear , paying a high price for its courage and desperation as the motives in this participation, as the result of the recent cosmic, naturally developed, catastrophic events.
I bough to you and honour you, oh Japanese..............!
However, anyone can understand, Japan like Italy, Ireland, New Zealand, etc. has not got the prerequisite for the installation of Nuclear Plants............i.e., which are large geographical spaces, geological capacity/suitability, the local availability of the radioactive materials/fuels, etc.
Cooling--water together with isolated locations together with either masses of water ( the sea) or geological cavities required for the initial phase of the storing
( not-dumping ) of the toxic waste, are also present requirements.
Small populations are also a prerequisite, as the Nuclear Project can then be maintained at a small scale, the minimum required for a relative maximization of returns, until the stage of detoxification of wastes is reached when the stored wastes can be reclaimed. The paramount source of motivation is of course the knowledge that, at the present level of a world population of about six billions people, and g rowing, Renewable Energetic Resources shall not suffice to maintain the present status quo..............in addition to being unsuitable to deliver Energy at the fast rates and concentrations required by most applications ( the latter is the fundamental issue non-technical people appear to not be able or willing to grasp ). Just think of a ship, a tram or a bus filled with its human load or cargo, to be driven by solar power...........
Are you kidding me? Yet Politicians believe it is possible.....! And the gullible masses of voters follow their ( and their Caucus' ) misplaced, diabolical hubris or charisma and even those who should know, appear to follow for fear to become unpopular or to loose their jobs...........or for love.........or pure fanaticism...........
Please remember Lenin, Hither, Mussolini, Stalin, Mobutu, Nkrumah-Does-No-Wrong--is--Always--Right of Congo, and Kukoutu...........
No one can afford to initiate such a project as the Nuclear without the hope of some return and the belief, a scientific one, that eventually, toxic wastes can be detoxified.
All forms and sources of energy are dependent, like all goods in a Free Market, on supply and demand and therefore also inter-, mutually dependent on one another.
So, if one source becomes dear and less used, the others shall also follow suit, as demand increases.
Moreover, as said above, there are applications, like heaters, air-conditioners, cooking devices, etc., just to consider the domestic field, not the working and services-supplying places, the power of which is such, i.e., a humble electric iron already requires 700 watts almost one horse-power ( = 746 watts) as to make solar and wind powers a joke, when counted by the millions. No cheap alternative is available as claimed by the above mentioned naive, technically ignorant politician. So..........costs are going to rise.............the poor and marginally located in society and in the World shall suffer...........and all shall remain the same........including the unavoidable Global Warming...........except that billions shall be wasted that should be going now, before it is too late, into the research and production of new sources of energy. The danger is going to be that we may find ourselves inextricably, financially committed and locked into a vast unsuitable and insufficient energetic behemoth, excluding a reversal of policy and the adoption of the Nuclear Course.
Another among the many considerations not made here is that Australia is in a uniquely privileged position which Australians appear increasingly incapable to grasp and respond to.
What a bloody shame !
I must confess I have made a tremendous effort to not use four letters Saxon expletives !
The politician suavely and surely.......oh so assuredly........answered that there is still going to be a choice between goods not depending on coal and those, (meaning .........the very same goods ) which are dependent on coal as a source of energy for their production .
The sophistry is at a double level...........since a vast range of essential goods and services depend on Energy delivered at high concentrations and rates (i.e., explosively or by way of some intense/ high temperature--- combustion......... ) of delivery and some goods and services cannot possibly be sourced by Renewable sources, except the vegetable one, which however competes with the food-clothing--etc.-requirements of billions of human beings.
One of the fallacies in the politician's statement resulted, fundamentally, from the naive lack of discrimination between goods and services, between domestic and public, as it appears she had concentrated/focused in her sophistical answer on manufactured goods which can be bought in a store.
For example, following my differentiations, I consider a car as a good but its use as a service via the medium of the fuel---combustion/explosion.
One may be able to manufacture one car through the installation and exploitation of a vast number of square kilometers of solar panels, but one cannot move it by solar panels according to parameters only possible with fuels obtained from the carbon-hydrogen chemical atomic structures.
It is clear to me that there is no Engineer or Scientist in Parliament, probably because people trained in the severe and exact sciences find it hard to lie, and when they tell the truth are politically disliked and kicked out from the top-echelons of command..................
unless, as a few among even the ranks of Engineers and Scientists do, some probably motivated by failures or mediocrity in their chosen field, others by the available rewards, they somehow reach the classification of the so called 'EXPERT in this or that '.
Going back to the goods depending or not from coal.
Energy has at present two sources in Australia............: Renewable ( i.e., Wind, Tide, Vegetable, Thermal/Geological ) and Fossil.
The Nuclear which is the result of the Fusion and Fission of materials somehow structured by past cosmic events so as to lock within their atomic structures, sources of Energy, is being rejected by Australians on the ground of its toxic waste-products. Nuclear Energy could also be called Fossil except that it is purely of a mineral classification, i.e., of non-biological origins.
Tiny Japan has actively participated in the Research and Production of the Nuclear , paying a high price for its courage and desperation as the motives in this participation, as the result of the recent cosmic, naturally developed, catastrophic events.
I bough to you and honour you, oh Japanese..............!
However, anyone can understand, Japan like Italy, Ireland, New Zealand, etc. has not got the prerequisite for the installation of Nuclear Plants............i.e., which are large geographical spaces, geological capacity/suitability, the local availability of the radioactive materials/fuels, etc.
Cooling--water together with isolated locations together with either masses of water ( the sea) or geological cavities required for the initial phase of the storing
( not-dumping ) of the toxic waste, are also present requirements.
Small populations are also a prerequisite, as the Nuclear Project can then be maintained at a small scale, the minimum required for a relative maximization of returns, until the stage of detoxification of wastes is reached when the stored wastes can be reclaimed. The paramount source of motivation is of course the knowledge that, at the present level of a world population of about six billions people, and g rowing, Renewable Energetic Resources shall not suffice to maintain the present status quo..............in addition to being unsuitable to deliver Energy at the fast rates and concentrations required by most applications ( the latter is the fundamental issue non-technical people appear to not be able or willing to grasp ). Just think of a ship, a tram or a bus filled with its human load or cargo, to be driven by solar power...........
Are you kidding me? Yet Politicians believe it is possible.....! And the gullible masses of voters follow their ( and their Caucus' ) misplaced, diabolical hubris or charisma and even those who should know, appear to follow for fear to become unpopular or to loose their jobs...........or for love.........or pure fanaticism...........
Please remember Lenin, Hither, Mussolini, Stalin, Mobutu, Nkrumah-Does-No-Wrong--is--Always--Right of Congo, and Kukoutu...........
No one can afford to initiate such a project as the Nuclear without the hope of some return and the belief, a scientific one, that eventually, toxic wastes can be detoxified.
All forms and sources of energy are dependent, like all goods in a Free Market, on supply and demand and therefore also inter-, mutually dependent on one another.
So, if one source becomes dear and less used, the others shall also follow suit, as demand increases.
Moreover, as said above, there are applications, like heaters, air-conditioners, cooking devices, etc., just to consider the domestic field, not the working and services-supplying places, the power of which is such, i.e., a humble electric iron already requires 700 watts almost one horse-power ( = 746 watts) as to make solar and wind powers a joke, when counted by the millions. No cheap alternative is available as claimed by the above mentioned naive, technically ignorant politician. So..........costs are going to rise.............the poor and marginally located in society and in the World shall suffer...........and all shall remain the same........including the unavoidable Global Warming...........except that billions shall be wasted that should be going now, before it is too late, into the research and production of new sources of energy. The danger is going to be that we may find ourselves inextricably, financially committed and locked into a vast unsuitable and insufficient energetic behemoth, excluding a reversal of policy and the adoption of the Nuclear Course.
Another among the many considerations not made here is that Australia is in a uniquely privileged position which Australians appear increasingly incapable to grasp and respond to.
What a bloody shame !
I must confess I have made a tremendous effort to not use four letters Saxon expletives !
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