Post 285. An Exaggerated view about Nuclear?
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Blogger's Comment--: Australians, specially the ladies among them, tend to go overboard in anything they believe or tackle. It is a genetic trait. This can be, as everything in our world subjected to scarcity necessity and entropy ( degeneration ) either bad or good. It was good in the Australian-lady-surgeon who carried out the difficult cataract eye-operation to my left-hand-eye which, although being larger than the average has a medium- sized-lens-pouch ( average-sized-pupil) and had to fit this large lens into a relatively small pouch under a microscope. But they can also be horrible ( bordering on the criminal ) pains in the ars-hole( have you ever suffered from haemorroid ? )............and I know through personal experience from the pack of Australian feminists trying to take over the Theology-College-Faculty, aiming to re-write the Bible and declare God a female on the steps of an Austrian feminist Theologian called Fiorenza Schlusser. I.......the naive Templar tried to reason with them, I even naively joined a class on
' Feminism ' and the year after a class about 'St. John Gospel ' taught by one of their leaders, but their reactions were of the islamic type ( the word assassin derives from the arabic ), bordering on the terrorist-strain. But being a stolid, stoic, spartan-like fellow, I survived, and eventually graduated as a Bachelor.
I am not an expert in Nuclear Science, however I remember reading about two processes ( fission and fusion ), one of the two being able to neutralize the radioactivity of nuclear wastes produced by the first by re-processing these wastes. By the way, I have also been trained as an Engineer, although my real vocation has always been Theology, the Queen of Sciences.
Mrs. H. Caldicott does not mention this important fact.
Moreover we are worried about IRAN not Iraq and why the lack of a mention of IRAN in this Post by beppegrillo?
Is it because his wife is Iranian?
It would be in the interest of Islam to discourage us in the West from trying to break through to the second Nuclear Process which still requires research.
Why does Iran, with its large fossil fuel reserves, insist in Nuclear research?
Do not tell me............those among us who are either stupid or treacherous ( in the pay of Islam), that there has not been a resurgence since WWI of Pan-Imperial-Islamism.
Islam ( Iran ) is buying time, trying to reach a stage when it has got both nuclear and fossil fuels so as to blackmail us into submission by also leveraging on China and India which are hungry, energy-wise.
In fact, to be effective in detail, in a future war, one needs fossil fuels, given that one side has it.
My ansestors ( the de Ferrariis) have never been slaves and have never been fanatical to the point of refusing to collaborate with reasonable, good-willing people.
This is in a nut-shell, the message of the New Testament, however the Old has not been abolished by Jesus and can be used in default.
I would not hesitate to use a Nuclear weapon against a fanatical enemy having a frame of mind similar to that of the Japanese Samurai of WWII.
Mohammedan masses, like the Japanese or German ones of WWII-fame, appear to be slavishly following their fanatical Islamic leaders, without trying to regulate their obsoleted beliefs and aims, by revolting.
We are swamped with their refugees ( numbering millions) but no one among them asks for training and weapons to fight the mongrels who are a minority among them.
They claim they cannot fight against their brothers.
But why come to us and ask to share our resources?
What a gall!
Our obsessive and distorted humanitarian attitudes which ignore the plight of our soldiers, refuse the severity of war-measures that include destruction of villages, water-wells, trees, crops, which are logistic material for our opponents, to be carried out in the middle of winter in Afghanistan. By all means remove and relocate the inhabitants where you can watch them.
Force the Talibans away from their mountains, by cutting off their supplies, removing their womenfolk.
Learn from the Pakistani Army that sanitized Taliban occupied territory in a couple of months, by using 150 mm. howitzers against the infested villages.
Ataturk of the Turks, once a leader of Islam, recognized and accepted the need to reform Islam and to co-operate with the West as he knew Islam with its di-centralised religious hierarchy, is incapable of uniform and consistent ethical formation and reform, and was corrupted to the core.
Why does not Islam follow his lead?
Ataturk even adopted separation of State and Religion, theoretically abandoning the theocratic obsession that results in imperialistic drives. I said theoratically since Turkey is still riddled with Political Parties hankering to a return to the ancient Islamic ways.
People like Mrs. Caldicott, and typically most Australians and Anglo-Saxons, can only see one issue at one time, owing to a faulty education-system that makes of their best minds narrow specialists who ignore the wider horizon, therefore being unfit to comment.
Please stick to Medicine.
Nuclear is Expensive. Of course it is as it is still experimental.
However if our opponents are involved, so must we.
The first car and steam-operated loom were also more expensive than their animal or hand-operated counterparts.
Mrs. Caldicott is right about Berlusconi and the Mafia and these problems need fixing.
She is also indirectly correct about Italy in relation to actual nuclear-energy-production as Italy is unsuitable, lacking space for waste-storage, being mountaineous, having water-resources criss-crossing one another all over the country. Italy has however the best Nuclear Scientists/Designers in the World and should carry on research.
Another place most unsuitable to Nuclear Production would be Bangladesh. If it is true Israel has accepted to build one there, I say it is criminal.
By contrast, Australia is the best place in the World where to build Nuclear Power Stations, as it has the prime material, the dry, rocky space where to store the waste, easily guarded due to the isolation of the possible places, the empty, desert-coastlines where to locate de-salination plants for the required cooling of the reactors, also producing sweet water as a sideline.
So, che cazzo are we Australian grongos waiting for?
The way beppegrillo and Caldicott are talking they mean a total sabotage of western nuclear capability. Why don't they write about, agitate and organize street-manifestations to ask Iran to stop and dismantle their Nuclear Power Station and to ask Iran to participate in the movement of Nuclear Weapons non- proliferation?
This is why they lack credibility and trust-worthiness.
Yes............many have fallen.......victims of nuclear radiations, but this is the result of the corruption of or the stupidity among the leaders who have not made sure structures and processing facilities to be over-designed and fail-safe.
Caldicott should get involved as a medical person in the unpopular issue of the excessive demographic expansion and the fact that, without fossil or nuclear energy, in the presence of Global-Warming and rising sea-levels, with most rice-bowls of the world being flooded, the present world population shall have to be reduced to one third of its present number. And even so animals shall have to be resorted to competing with us for their feed for much of the work required, perhaps even the re-introduction of human slavery becoming necessary.
Think about it Caldicott!
There is no issue that can be considered in isolation.
So do not accuse me of a lack of focus and of digressions.
The leading minorities in Islam ( i.e., Osama Bin Laden), less affected than our leaders and even proletarian politicians from centuries of substance-abuses ( mainly alcohol ) and lavish imperial standards of living ( this includes people like Caldicott), appear to be more aware than us about the looming future, although they indulge in encouraging demographic expansion to foster de-stabilisation and disorder.
Follow the link to read the post:
http://www.beppegrillo.it/en/2010/06/nuclear_is_not_the_answer.html
Nuclear is not the Answer.
( beppegrillo's title)
An Exaggerated view about Nuclear?
(My title)
' Feminism ' and the year after a class about 'St. John Gospel ' taught by one of their leaders, but their reactions were of the islamic type ( the word assassin derives from the arabic ), bordering on the terrorist-strain. But being a stolid, stoic, spartan-like fellow, I survived, and eventually graduated as a Bachelor.
I am not an expert in Nuclear Science, however I remember reading about two processes ( fission and fusion ), one of the two being able to neutralize the radioactivity of nuclear wastes produced by the first by re-processing these wastes. By the way, I have also been trained as an Engineer, although my real vocation has always been Theology, the Queen of Sciences.
Mrs. H. Caldicott does not mention this important fact.
Moreover we are worried about IRAN not Iraq and why the lack of a mention of IRAN in this Post by beppegrillo?
Is it because his wife is Iranian?
It would be in the interest of Islam to discourage us in the West from trying to break through to the second Nuclear Process which still requires research.
Why does Iran, with its large fossil fuel reserves, insist in Nuclear research?
Do not tell me............those among us who are either stupid or treacherous ( in the pay of Islam), that there has not been a resurgence since WWI of Pan-Imperial-Islamism.
Islam ( Iran ) is buying time, trying to reach a stage when it has got both nuclear and fossil fuels so as to blackmail us into submission by also leveraging on China and India which are hungry, energy-wise.
In fact, to be effective in detail, in a future war, one needs fossil fuels, given that one side has it.
My ansestors ( the de Ferrariis) have never been slaves and have never been fanatical to the point of refusing to collaborate with reasonable, good-willing people.
This is in a nut-shell, the message of the New Testament, however the Old has not been abolished by Jesus and can be used in default.
I would not hesitate to use a Nuclear weapon against a fanatical enemy having a frame of mind similar to that of the Japanese Samurai of WWII.
Mohammedan masses, like the Japanese or German ones of WWII-fame, appear to be slavishly following their fanatical Islamic leaders, without trying to regulate their obsoleted beliefs and aims, by revolting.
We are swamped with their refugees ( numbering millions) but no one among them asks for training and weapons to fight the mongrels who are a minority among them.
They claim they cannot fight against their brothers.
But why come to us and ask to share our resources?
What a gall!
Our obsessive and distorted humanitarian attitudes which ignore the plight of our soldiers, refuse the severity of war-measures that include destruction of villages, water-wells, trees, crops, which are logistic material for our opponents, to be carried out in the middle of winter in Afghanistan. By all means remove and relocate the inhabitants where you can watch them.
Force the Talibans away from their mountains, by cutting off their supplies, removing their womenfolk.
Learn from the Pakistani Army that sanitized Taliban occupied territory in a couple of months, by using 150 mm. howitzers against the infested villages.
Ataturk of the Turks, once a leader of Islam, recognized and accepted the need to reform Islam and to co-operate with the West as he knew Islam with its di-centralised religious hierarchy, is incapable of uniform and consistent ethical formation and reform, and was corrupted to the core.
Why does not Islam follow his lead?
Ataturk even adopted separation of State and Religion, theoretically abandoning the theocratic obsession that results in imperialistic drives. I said theoratically since Turkey is still riddled with Political Parties hankering to a return to the ancient Islamic ways.
People like Mrs. Caldicott, and typically most Australians and Anglo-Saxons, can only see one issue at one time, owing to a faulty education-system that makes of their best minds narrow specialists who ignore the wider horizon, therefore being unfit to comment.
Please stick to Medicine.
Nuclear is Expensive. Of course it is as it is still experimental.
However if our opponents are involved, so must we.
The first car and steam-operated loom were also more expensive than their animal or hand-operated counterparts.
Mrs. Caldicott is right about Berlusconi and the Mafia and these problems need fixing.
She is also indirectly correct about Italy in relation to actual nuclear-energy-production as Italy is unsuitable, lacking space for waste-storage, being mountaineous, having water-resources criss-crossing one another all over the country. Italy has however the best Nuclear Scientists/Designers in the World and should carry on research.
Another place most unsuitable to Nuclear Production would be Bangladesh. If it is true Israel has accepted to build one there, I say it is criminal.
By contrast, Australia is the best place in the World where to build Nuclear Power Stations, as it has the prime material, the dry, rocky space where to store the waste, easily guarded due to the isolation of the possible places, the empty, desert-coastlines where to locate de-salination plants for the required cooling of the reactors, also producing sweet water as a sideline.
So, che cazzo are we Australian grongos waiting for?
The way beppegrillo and Caldicott are talking they mean a total sabotage of western nuclear capability. Why don't they write about, agitate and organize street-manifestations to ask Iran to stop and dismantle their Nuclear Power Station and to ask Iran to participate in the movement of Nuclear Weapons non- proliferation?
This is why they lack credibility and trust-worthiness.
Yes............many have fallen.......victims of nuclear radiations, but this is the result of the corruption of or the stupidity among the leaders who have not made sure structures and processing facilities to be over-designed and fail-safe.
Caldicott should get involved as a medical person in the unpopular issue of the excessive demographic expansion and the fact that, without fossil or nuclear energy, in the presence of Global-Warming and rising sea-levels, with most rice-bowls of the world being flooded, the present world population shall have to be reduced to one third of its present number. And even so animals shall have to be resorted to competing with us for their feed for much of the work required, perhaps even the re-introduction of human slavery becoming necessary.
Think about it Caldicott!
There is no issue that can be considered in isolation.
So do not accuse me of a lack of focus and of digressions.
The leading minorities in Islam ( i.e., Osama Bin Laden), less affected than our leaders and even proletarian politicians from centuries of substance-abuses ( mainly alcohol ) and lavish imperial standards of living ( this includes people like Caldicott), appear to be more aware than us about the looming future, although they indulge in encouraging demographic expansion to foster de-stabilisation and disorder.
Follow the link to read the post:
http://www.beppegrillo.it/en/2010/06/nuclear_is_not_the_answer.html
Nuclear is not the Answer.
( beppegrillo's title)
An Exaggerated view about Nuclear?
(My title)
To sit down and have a discussion with Italian nuclearists is not just useless, but counter-productive. It’s the classic story of the one who starts up a discussion with an imbecile. Anyone observing from the outside sees two imbeciles talking. Nuclear power was turned down in a referendum, full stop. It cannot be re-introduced by lobbyists and political lackeys, The people of Italy, who are used to putting up with almost anything, don’t want it from an instinct of survival. In the country with the most powerful mafias in the world who would manage the waste products? Nuclear costs more than any other type of energy: who will pay for it? In a few decades, uranium will run out and its price will go up from one week to another. It is the LEAST renewable type of energy in the world. Helen Caldicott, the author of:” Nuclear Power Is Not the Answer to Global Warming Or Anything Else”, explains the dangers of nuclear power for our offspring and theirs. Unemployed, with no pension and nuclearised.
Interview with Helen Caldicott
H. Caldicott: My name is Helen Caldicott. I’m Australian. I’m a paediatrician a children’s specialist and for four years I have been involved in the medical implications of nuclear power an nuclear war, as well as being on the faculty at Harvard Medical School and practising medicine as well.
Blog: Why are there still so many countries in the world, like UK, that are continuing to include the nuclear option in the energy mix?
Blog: Why are there still so many countries in the world, like UK, that are continuing to include the nuclear option in the energy mix?
H. Caldicott: Well a lot of people are quite ignorant about the nuclear fuel cycle and the radiation effects within the body and all the side effects from nuclear power from uranium mining to milling to enrichment to building the reactor to the reactor producing large amounts of routine radioactive emissions that produce radiation that then concentrates in the human food chain and then in breast milk and then bones and the lungs and also radioactive waste which lasts for about half a million years and over time will absolutely contaminate the food chain so people will be eating radioactive food and babies are 10 to 20 times more sensitive to radiation than adults. Foetuses thousands of times. And people don’t understand that this is a medical problem and most people do not have the biological information to understand it. Hence the nuclear power industry has been pushing a huge propaganda campaign saying that they are the answer to global warming because they produce no carbon dioxide. They actually do produce a large amount of carbon dioxide as well as they will produce epidemics of cancer, leukaemia and genetic disease in all future generations.
Blog: So how much do nuclear power cost considering all the costs that society pays?
Blog: So how much do nuclear power cost considering all the costs that society pays?
H. Caldicott: Well a nuclear reactor itself costs about 12 to 15 billion dollars now to build but that and all the other parts of it, the enriching of uranium, the huge amounts of insurance that is all paid for by the government, the government subsidises the whole nuclear power industry – the costs of the medical problems down the time frame are not included. The costs of looking after patients, particularly children with cancer and genetic disease are never including. The costs of storing radioactive waste for half a million years are never included. The transportation of radioactive waste is never included. So that it's so much cheaper to conduct or build renewable energy sources like wind and solar and geothermal and co generation and high grade efficiency in the use of electricity.
Blog: Is there a safe nuclear power option at all?
Blog: Is there a safe nuclear power option at all?
H. Caldicott: No, absolutely not. There are absolutely no safe nuclear power options. If you read my book, "Nuclear Power is Not the Answer to Global Warming," you'll understand why when you have read the book. There is no safe nuclear power. And equally you have to talk about costs to build nuclear power plants, but I'm sure Berlusconi doesn't understand what I'm talking about.
Blog: So who wants nuclear power?
Blog: So who wants nuclear power?
H. Caldicott: Pardon? Who wants nuclear power?
Blog: Yeah, who wants it?
Blog: Yeah, who wants it?
H. Caldicott: The politicians have been dealt a big a propaganda campaign and maybe some money, I don't know. The politicians are scientifically and medically illiterate. In other words, they understand no science. Like Berlusconi, what science does he understand? Does he understand medicine? How long it takes to get cancer once you're irradiated, like five to six years. Does he know the results for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
So most politicians are corporate shills, if you will, of the nuclear power industry. Like they are of the oil industry and the coal industry. They go where the money is, not where the people's future and well being and health is.
Blog: What about military lobbyists behind the nuclear option?
So most politicians are corporate shills, if you will, of the nuclear power industry. Like they are of the oil industry and the coal industry. They go where the money is, not where the people's future and well being and health is.
Blog: What about military lobbyists behind the nuclear option?
H. Caldicott: Well, of course nuclear power was founded in the Manhattan Project to produce plutonium to make bombs. And then nuclear power was an offshoot of that, because the people who built the bombs felt so guilty about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, where they killed over 200, 000 people in a flash of light, that they thought if they could harness the atoms for peaceful purposes they would feel less guilt. I knew many of those men; I worked closely with them. They hated nuclear weapons, and I can tell you that their guilt was not assuaged by the time they died. And they knew, they knew, how dangerous it was and is. They're all in their graves now.
You should also know that every nuclear power plant makes 250 kilos of plutonium a year. Plutonium lasts for half a million years, and you only need five kilos to make yourself a nuclear weapon. So any country that has a reactor can make over a hundred nuclear weapons a year if they want.
That's why people are worried about Iraq. That's how Israel made its bombs. That's how Britain
Blog: Is there at least one example.... made its bombs. That's how Pakistan and India made their bombs. That's how China made its bombs. Nuclear weapons and nuclear power are part of the same industry. Once you've got nuclear power plants, you can have nuclear bombs.
You should also know that every nuclear power plant makes 250 kilos of plutonium a year. Plutonium lasts for half a million years, and you only need five kilos to make yourself a nuclear weapon. So any country that has a reactor can make over a hundred nuclear weapons a year if they want.
That's why people are worried about Iraq. That's how Israel made its bombs. That's how Britain
Blog: Is there at least one example.... made its bombs. That's how Pakistan and India made their bombs. That's how China made its bombs. Nuclear weapons and nuclear power are part of the same industry. Once you've got nuclear power plants, you can have nuclear bombs.
H. Caldicott: Does Berlusconi want nuclear bombs?
Blog: Is there at least one example in the world of correct management of nuclear waste?
Blog: Is there at least one example in the world of correct management of nuclear waste?
H. Caldicott: No. No country has solved the problem of nuclear waste, nor will any country ever solve the problem. Because whatever you put it in copper, steel, concrete within 50 or 100 years, that will rust and break apart and nuclear waste will leak out into the environment, the water, concentrate in food, milk, meat, vegetables. And people will be eating radioactive food. Their babies will be born deformed, as babies are being born deformed now in Fallujah and Basra in Iraq, where they used radioactive weapons and still do. In fact in Fallujah, the doctors are telling mothers not to have any babies, because almost all of them are born grossly deformed, either with no brain, or single eyes, or no arms. I mean, that's what the future holds.
Blog: What should common people, normal people, citizens, do discard the option of nuclear power? Any options for that lobby?
Blog: What should common people, normal people, citizens, do discard the option of nuclear power? Any options for that lobby?
H. Caldicott: Yeah. First, they must be well informed. It's imperative that they understand the information. I have to suggest I know my book has been translated into Italian that everyone who listens to this should read "Nuclear Power is Not the Answer to Global Warming." And once they've read that, they need to spend some days with their feelings, working out what they're going to do. Truly we need a revolution against this really ghastly, wicked nuclear industry. It's much worse than tobacco, much worse than smoking, much worse than asbestos.
People can use their democracy by going to see their politicians and educating them. Take doctors with them dressed in their white coats with their stethoscopes. Go and see Berlusconi; take over Berlusconi's office.
Italians are good, I think. They're passionate people, they really care about life. They can work out what they're going to do to make sure their country closes down all the nuclear power plants.
People can use their democracy by going to see their politicians and educating them. Take doctors with them dressed in their white coats with their stethoscopes. Go and see Berlusconi; take over Berlusconi's office.
Italians are good, I think. They're passionate people, they really care about life. They can work out what they're going to do to make sure their country closes down all the nuclear power plants.
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I'm Fatih from Bangladesh.
Recently our government has made a deal with Israel to plant nuclear power project to solve our electricity requirements.I think, we are going to more bad fate, and some right ways are still now available to produce power hare. Thanks to remarkable writing!