Post 260. Italia Italia vituperio delle genti.......!
http://www.beppegrillo.it/en/2010/05/piazza_fontana_we_knew_it_all_1.html
With China, Japan and India being now able to copy anything Italian craftsmen can think of, even whale-ball's-skin-human-ball-suspenders, there is absolutely no way Italy can repay this money.
Maybe the Italian Mafia could..........................
I would next reduce the Italian Parliament and Senate to one third of their present size.
Remember after all that the U.S.A. has the FBI and the CIA and some other secret Organisation to watch those two like a redundancy-fail-safe-engineering system.
Just remember the film " Serpico " and now the Australian glamourisation of Crime...........the T-V serial " Underbelley ", unusualyl good, technically faultless, however useless as all it shall achieve is some Australian/other Police to try what the film condemns.
Australians and modern anglo-saxon ( and their pupils ) mentalities and characters are to-day, educationally-wise, pure blanks, ready to be inscribed by what natural lusts and ambitions dictates, titillated by the huge money-making advertising through the corrupt, ethically blanketed out media.
Their greatest ethical effort is jealously and enviously hitting " The Tiger ", that poor black golf-champion's love for mistresses.
The only difference in their favour is that they are less affected than their couterpart in the PIIG Nations, by scarcity and necessity and still ispired by some still surviving Celtic/British/Templar-like tradition.
In " Underbelly " for example, this tradition is represented by the appearance at some stage in the film, when the leadership becomes somehow aware that something may be wrong, of the Scottish/Australian-Police-Bagpipe-Band!!!!
It is just magic my dear boy!
Perhaps this could save the PIIG too!
Please note I am not anti-anything except MAFIA.
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Andrea Sceresini: "My name is Andrea Sceresini and, together with Nicola Palma and Maria Elena Scandaliato, we co-authored the book entitled “Piazza Fontana – Noi sapevamo”, which was released just a few weeks ago. I believe that it still makes sense to talk about the events of Piazza Fontana today, 41 years later. It still makes sense because we are talking about events that have never really been properly explained and because these events are symptomatic of an era, namely the era of the Strategy of tension, of terrorism and of the limited sovereignty that existed in Italy during the 1970’s and thereafter; a situation that has somehow dragged on until now and that, unsurprisingly has never been properly explained. We have never really been able to understand the truth about what happened, about Piazza Fontana, about the various attempted coup d’états that took place in Italy from the early Seventies (in other words from the Borghese Coup) through to the mid-Seventies, or about the other bombs and the other slaughters that killed tens and tens of people during the 1970’s.
The meaning of Piazza Fontana today
Yes, it has meaning. It has meaning because a recent survey conducted amongst a number of young people in Milan revealed that the majority of high school students are convinced that the bomb in Piazza Fontana was indie placed by the Red Brigades, so it has meaning because they are part of what should be the public culture of this Country. "
Maria Elena Scandaliato: "The motives behind the slaughter are the same as those behind the creation of the entire strategy of tension, namely to create a kind of social tension in Italy that would somehow justify authoritarian control of the population, similar to that which occurred in Greece but in a different form, and there was no need for a military coup like the one that occurred against the colonels in Greece just a few years earlier.
So these are the reasons, which can essentially be traced back to the Cold War that was taking place in Europe at the time and that was of particular concern to Europe, also because we must also remember that, at the time, Italy had the strongest Communist Party in all of Europe and so, after the hot autumn of ’69 and following a series of conquests and social battles, the communist threat had to be eliminated and the strategy of tension met this need, which was not only an Italian need, but also an international and an American need. Not only were we a member of NATO, but we were also NATO’s aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean, so we had to be an indisputable, firm and strong point of reference. That is why the strategy of tension was implemented and, in some ways, it was a winning strategy.
Andrea Sceresini: "According to what Maletti says, and according to what the Magistrature states, or rather what the Magistrature suspects because a final ruling has never been issued in this regard, the United States supplied the attackers with explosives. The attackers were the neofascists of the Padua-Veneto cell of the “Ordine Nuovo” (New Order) organisation and the Americans supplied them with explosives and logistical support. All of the American bases in the northeast were somehow involved in actively supporting the neofascist groups by providing them with training , arms, ammunition and men. These facts already emerged in the years immediately following the Piazza Fontana attack, for example, there was the Rosa dei Venti inquiry conducted by Judge Tamburino in '74, which revealed these facts, as did the Salvini inquiry.
So the Americans provided the logistical support, the explosives and, above all, gave the attackers carte blanche to act, which they did totally independently. It was not some CIA agent that placed the bomb in Piazza Fontana, but rather a bunch of Italian neofascists, armed with American explosives, that carried out the attack.
Maria Elena Scandaliato: "There is no doubt that since the Seventies, American interference has continued unabated, and there is also no longer anyone who denies this. In the Seventies, there were those who even denied the existence of any NATO or American military bases in Italy because of the very real risk of a nuclear war, in which Italy would have been a prime target due to the fact that this Country was one of the prime missile launching sites. Then there was also a left wing that continued to question whether or not Italy should even be a member of NATO in the first place.
Today, this is no longer the case, yet the American forces still remain in Italy, and no one even questions it any longer. In my opinion, they are even more deeply rooted here that before, yet no one questions their presence, neither the right wing , oh well, no one from the right wing is ever likely to question it , but not even the left wing questions their continued presence. All the parties of the Italian political spectrum steer clear of discussing the American presence, above all the rules and regulations by which the American and Nato bases continue to maintain their bases in Italy.
Nevertheless, the risk of Italy landing up in the middle of a potential nuclear war is still very real, even though no one talks about it, even if no one bothers to raise the issue of this very real risk.
Andrea Sceresini: "There are still many unanswered questions, and even after having spoken with Maletti and various other members of the secret services, as opposed to individuals linked to the far right wing terrorist organisations, etc., we realised that everyone is very scared to speak out. There is the truth that many of them admit to knowing, but have never spoken about. There are certain records of questioning sessions held with individuals linked to, for example, the “Rosa dei Venti” inquiry, which are still classified as state secrets today, 40 years on, and no one knows what these individuals actually said during the course of these questioning sessions. People are afraid to talk about what really happened, even Maletti. For example, we visited Licio Gelli and he told us that when Maletti came to Italy in 2001 to testify with regard to the Piazza Fontana attack, he only had so many days of safe-conduct, let’s say ten days in all. He testified, after which he went to visit Gelli at Villa Wanda, where the two met and Gelli asked him: “What the hell are you doing here in Italy? You must go back to South Africa immediately. Tomorrow you must catch a train, go to Marseilles and then climb on a plane bound for South Africa because it is dangerous for you to stay here”.
This is pretty much the attitude held by most of these individuals, so what is it precisely that is so unmentionable? Is it perhaps Andreotti’s involvement? I don’t think so because, after all, Andreotti has in any event been bad-mouthed regarding every other affair as well, from the Pecorelli affair through to his alleged Mafia connections, so obviously there is something far bigger that is probably still going on to this day. Maletti told us that one of the individuals that were in Piazza Fontana on that day later became a minister in Berlusconi’s previous government, which is also mentioned in this book. Which means that these individuals are pretty much still around today, the very same people, the structures haven’t changed, nor have the situations, so confessing, telling the whole truth would create problems for political stability, even today. This is proof that anyone who does indeed know the truth would do better to simply keep quiet.
What sense is there in remembering
Maria Elena Scandaliato: "People want to know the truth with regard to an affair that is part of public memory. For example, we are talking about Ordine Nuovo as an extreme right-wing, neofascist organisation that claimed tens of innocent victims in their attempt to achieve the objectives of what we could classify as pure terrorism, in other words, to sow panic and terror amongst the population by means of indiscriminate attacks. We’re talking about major and extremely serious attacks here, attacks that actually killed tens of innocent people.
What Andrea was saying earlier, namely that if you ask the average Milan university student who he/she believes was really responsible for placing the bomb in Piazza Fontana back in '69 he/she would say that it was the Red Brigades, makes you realise that everything has been taken away. If you speak to the average 20-year-old with an average general knowledge, they don’t even know what the “Ordine Nuovo” is. Yet, if we put the lives of so many innocent victims on the other side of the scale, these youngsters should know about the Ordine Nuovo, at least as much as they know about the Red Brigades, but none of them know about the former!
This is serious, and it is proof of just how much the communal memory has been totally covered up, put into a box and dropped into the sea. The Italian public and political memory, the communal memory that they talk about these days is nonexistent, it is mere fresh water, it has no meaning, it’s empty, without any content, indeed, in our opinion, there is no communal memory.
Andrea Sceresini: "Then there is the matter of the many other CIA operations in Italy that no one knows anything about, for example, the operation codenamed “Blue Moon”, which no one appears to know anything about but that nevertheless emerged from the case dossiers at the time of the Rosa dei Venti trial, but also from those relating to the most recent Piazza Fontana trial. Blue Moon was an operation conducted by the American secret services in Italy, involving the introduction of heroin into the student movement and aimed at distributing the drug amongst the youth in order to reduce the militancy of the workers, the students, etc. According to the documentation, this operation was actually conducted, although no one appears to know anything about it. We also knew nothing about it until we read through the court documents, yet heroin claimed something like 6 or 7-thousand victims in Italy during the Seventies. Obviously there is a common desire not to know, not to go digging, not to find out anything about these things, not to remember them and not to hand them down to the next generation.
Maria Elena Scandaliato: "These, namely the bombs and the slaughters, are the foundation on which the Italian Republic was built, and this is something that we must not forget. Then, if we want to go digging for those even before Portella della Ginestra, this is what was going on, even a long time before. Today’s Sicily was built on these very same foundations and today’s Italy, Berlusconi’s Italy where there is no political opposition in Parliament, where there is essentially one single party, which I believe is the case, I san Italy that rests on these very same foundations, namely on attacks, on the strategy of tension and on the limited sovereignty imposed by the United States. This is Italy as we know it. We can better understand why Italy is what it is today by taking a closer look at these foundations.
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If Italy wants to control its own destiny, then you must have another Il Duce. One who will chop off the heads of the Mafia and do away with Democracy. The only other solution is to split up into various nations again.
you need someone much more ruthless than Silvio.
If Italy wants to control its own destiny, then you must have another Il Duce. One who will chop off the heads of the Mafia and do away with Democracy. The only other solution is to split up into various nations again.
you need someone much more ruthless than Silvio.