Post 220. MAFIAISM not FASCISM!
MAFIAISM not FASCISM!
Comment by Blogger ( see also Post 218 ) -:
Italians, even those who are aware of their sad political and ethical plight are the most confused, intellectually brutalised lot in the West!
One needs the detachment, isolation, distancing, revelations I have acquired in 30 years of existence as an educated, still studying, North- Italian in Australia, observing the majority of fellow South Italian majorities in this country.
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It is wrong and misleading to talk to-day of the present Governing Powers ruling Italy as being Fascist.
The time comes in every Nation when a healthy, honest uncorrupt form of Fascism may be necessary to set matters right and eliminate corruption.
It all depends from the leader (s) Fate has made available and from God's-Will regarding that Nation.
Personally I do not believe Italians deserve God's consideration as the stink of Italian corruption has reached even God-the-Creator's limits of toleration, scripturally- speaking as if in relation to Sodom and Gomorra.
Beppe-Grillo The Enlightened or Marco Travaglio the Journalist, who should know better, but is another mediocre South Italian, halas, should not commit the error of calling out against Fascism as I believe Italy is being ruled by MAFIAISM.
And the only form of Government probably capable, with in the above mentioned caveats, of combating MAFIAISM is, I am afraid, a brutal Brand of FASCISM or GHEDDAFISM.
But were are the leader (s)?
Where in Italy can one find a leader of the calibre of FRANCO the Spanish Aristocrat?
It is a genetical/intellectual impossility as all the potential possibilities have left Italy decades ago in revulsion.
A suitable character, albeit somehow ruined, is Vittorio Emmanuele IV but he is getting old and tends by indoctrination to crawl-up the Southern arse-holes following the myth of an Italian Unity.
Italy should begin at the Alps and end at the Romagna and Emilia borders, until and if the MAFIA is totally and brutally eradicated.
But were are the leader (s)?
Where in Italy can one find a leader of the calibre of FRANCO the Spanish Aristocrat?
It is a genetical/intellectual impossility as all the potential possibilities have left Italy decades ago in revulsion.
A suitable character, albeit somehow ruined, is Vittorio Emmanuele IV but he is getting old and tends by indoctrination to crawl-up the Southern arse-holes following the myth of an Italian Unity.
Italy should begin at the Alps and end at the Romagna and Emilia borders, until and if the MAFIA is totally and brutally eradicated.
Democracy cannot do it!
Too late!
The cancer requires the AMPUTATION of members.
Hi.......hi yes it is painful.
Follow the link to read the post:
http://www.beppegrillo.it/en/2010/02/telefascism.html
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by Marco Travaglio on behalf of Beppe-Grillo-:
Good day to you all. There would be a temptation to talk about the “clean lists”, because you have seen that Berlusconi has discovered the “clean lists” and he has said “now I’ll show you”. Up until a few months ago, to talk about “clean lists”, about not putting up as candidates, people who’ve been convicted, or sent for trial for crimes against the public administration or for serious crimes, was considered to be “justicialism”. All the newspapers, even the independent ones were writing “but no, you can make laws that hand over to the Public prosecutors or the Judges for the preliminary investigations, the selection of the political class”. After that, it was Berlusconi who said it. Then everyone is complementing each other saying: “A correct signal was needed, of course, how could it be otherwise?” It depends on who says the things in Italy. It’s interesting that it was us that started to say this, then before they arrest the whole gang even Berlusconi has got there. The PD has not yet got there. This is the interesting point.
Berlusconi’s clean lists
Thus it was Di Pietro that has been saying this for centuries, Grillo for centuries, we have been saying this in our books for centuries, now it’s Berlusconi that’s saying it. I’m told that those of the PD are not just saying it but they are getting ready to make a law to prevent the candidacy of magistrates in the place where they are working, that is the true number one emergency. Are we in Finland, in Denmark? Thus there’s a political environment that is so clean that we need to worry about where a magistrate should be putting himself forward as a candidate? Why’s that?
Because Di Pietro has put forward a magistrate as a candidate in the top position in the list in Apulia. Instead of worrying about what is happening in Campania where they have put forward a candidate who is a defendant in three trials and where unfortunately even Di Pietro has accepted for “coalition obedience” the indecency of the candidacy of one like De Luca who is a defendant in numerous trials, they are worrying about the candidacy of Italia dei Valori in Apulia because there, there’s a magistrate with a clean record who has been conducting investigations in relation to Fitto and in relation to people of the Centre Left and so thus he must not be a candidate there, naturally. Anyway, there, the one who is mayor of Bari is a former magistrate, Michele Emiliano, for the PD and he is also doing a good job, among other things, and no one of the PD has ever made any objection. There, there are candidates that are elected including the magistrate and writer Carofiglio who is a great person, naturally in the PD, and so all is well. Maritati, a former Public Prosecutor, the one who investigated in relation to the kickbacks with the “king of the clinics” Cavallari to D’Alema and then the kickback got ended by the Statute of Limitations and thus Maritati became a parliamentarian, still in Bari, but given that he is in the PD there’s no problem. Now that Di Pietro is putting forward a magistrate as a candidate, they need to do a law to stop him from doing that, or perhaps they even need to make a law in such a way that someone who is a candidate for the regional council in Apulia and who is from Apulia, has to be a candidate in the Aosta Valley, well away from the region that he knows and where he has worked. Naturally, that’s a great move that is a demonstration of what I was saying earlier, that it’s not the principles that count. What counts is simply who at that moment you are trying to eliminate or create damage for.
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Posted by Beppe Grillo at 07:49 PM in Information
http://www.beppegrillo.it/en/2010/02/telefascism.html
Text
by Marco Travaglio on behalf of Beppe-Grillo-:
Good day to you all. There would be a temptation to talk about the “clean lists”, because you have seen that Berlusconi has discovered the “clean lists” and he has said “now I’ll show you”. Up until a few months ago, to talk about “clean lists”, about not putting up as candidates, people who’ve been convicted, or sent for trial for crimes against the public administration or for serious crimes, was considered to be “justicialism”. All the newspapers, even the independent ones were writing “but no, you can make laws that hand over to the Public prosecutors or the Judges for the preliminary investigations, the selection of the political class”. After that, it was Berlusconi who said it. Then everyone is complementing each other saying: “A correct signal was needed, of course, how could it be otherwise?” It depends on who says the things in Italy. It’s interesting that it was us that started to say this, then before they arrest the whole gang even Berlusconi has got there. The PD has not yet got there. This is the interesting point.
Berlusconi’s clean lists
Thus it was Di Pietro that has been saying this for centuries, Grillo for centuries, we have been saying this in our books for centuries, now it’s Berlusconi that’s saying it. I’m told that those of the PD are not just saying it but they are getting ready to make a law to prevent the candidacy of magistrates in the place where they are working, that is the true number one emergency. Are we in Finland, in Denmark? Thus there’s a political environment that is so clean that we need to worry about where a magistrate should be putting himself forward as a candidate? Why’s that?
Because Di Pietro has put forward a magistrate as a candidate in the top position in the list in Apulia. Instead of worrying about what is happening in Campania where they have put forward a candidate who is a defendant in three trials and where unfortunately even Di Pietro has accepted for “coalition obedience” the indecency of the candidacy of one like De Luca who is a defendant in numerous trials, they are worrying about the candidacy of Italia dei Valori in Apulia because there, there’s a magistrate with a clean record who has been conducting investigations in relation to Fitto and in relation to people of the Centre Left and so thus he must not be a candidate there, naturally. Anyway, there, the one who is mayor of Bari is a former magistrate, Michele Emiliano, for the PD and he is also doing a good job, among other things, and no one of the PD has ever made any objection. There, there are candidates that are elected including the magistrate and writer Carofiglio who is a great person, naturally in the PD, and so all is well. Maritati, a former Public Prosecutor, the one who investigated in relation to the kickbacks with the “king of the clinics” Cavallari to D’Alema and then the kickback got ended by the Statute of Limitations and thus Maritati became a parliamentarian, still in Bari, but given that he is in the PD there’s no problem. Now that Di Pietro is putting forward a magistrate as a candidate, they need to do a law to stop him from doing that, or perhaps they even need to make a law in such a way that someone who is a candidate for the regional council in Apulia and who is from Apulia, has to be a candidate in the Aosta Valley, well away from the region that he knows and where he has worked. Naturally, that’s a great move that is a demonstration of what I was saying earlier, that it’s not the principles that count. What counts is simply who at that moment you are trying to eliminate or create damage for.
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Posted by Beppe Grillo at 07:49 PM in Information
posted by Templar @ 4:39 PM
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